X10 Fusebox Problem
Last Modified: 31 December 2014
From: the X9 Owners & Riders Club forum
Topic : X10 Specific Stuff > Read this if you own a piaggio X10Quote: frankiej1949
July 22nd, 2013
POST FROM MAXI MUPPETS – I have one of the first X10's registered in the country. It has been absolutely flawless BUT there is a serious design issue.
The fusebox is located at the back of the bike under the battery compartment cover. It is easy to get to if you pop the seat and then unscrew the 2 screws.
The flaw is that the underside of the fusebox is open to ALL the dirty spray and everything else that can get thrown up through the gap by the rear tyre.
My X10 has been off the road for 8 weeks whilst a complete new wiring harness has been sent from Italy. ALL the fusebox underside contacts had corroded.
If you have noticed poor starting, cutting out, inconsistent fuelling, random lighting or anything else it means your wiring loom is starting to corrode!
Take it to your dealer and ask them to lithium grease the contacts and make a flap or housing to protect the fuse board.
Since mine was diagnosed my dealer has fixed 3 other X10's with the SAME problem.
July 22nd, 2013
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POST FROM MAXI MUPPETS – I have one of the first X10's registered in the country. It has been absolutely flawless BUT there is a serious design issue.
The fusebox is located at the back of the bike under the battery compartment cover. It is easy to get to if you pop the seat and then unscrew the 2 screws.
The flaw is that the underside of the fusebox is open to ALL the dirty spray and everything else that can get thrown up through the gap by the rear tyre.
My X10 has been off the road for 8 weeks whilst a complete new wiring harness has been sent from Italy. ALL the fusebox underside contacts had corroded.
If you have noticed poor starting, cutting out, inconsistent fuelling, random lighting or anything else it means your wiring loom is starting to corrode!
Take it to your dealer and ask them to lithium grease the contacts and make a flap or housing to protect the fuse board.
Since mine was diagnosed my dealer has fixed 3 other X10's with the SAME problem.
Quote: Solo
Might be a good idea to come up with a nice water proof dirt proof cover to protect it from the elements? so it don't happen again.
Quote: frankiej1949
... underside of the fusebox is open to ALL the dirt and rain and everything else that can get through the gap.
... underside of the fusebox is open to ALL the dirt and rain and everything else that can get through the gap.
Might be a good idea to come up with a nice water proof dirt proof cover to protect it from the elements? so it don't happen again.
Quote: Globs
If anyone manages to get a fairing panel off I'd be very interested to see/read/hear how they did it - I know it must be possible and without being able to remove the tub (the opposite to the Vespa!) we're going to need to know how...
If anyone manages to get a fairing panel off I'd be very interested to see/read/hear how they did it - I know it must be possible and without being able to remove the tub (the opposite to the Vespa!) we're going to need to know how...
Quote: jwoolf
[Here is] the view from the rear tyre - I dread to think of the mess this would become without ACF50 and a shield.
[Here is] the view from the rear tyre - I dread to think of the mess this would become without ACF50 and a shield.
Me:
OK here's my new super improved fusebox guard version Mk 2...
Made from another 2 kg ice cream tub lid, of course.
Walls, this time...
Fabrication drawing first:
Install-ified ~ note fixed to lower fusebox moulding by a single short self tap screw; hold the gizmo in position then drill the hole through the whole lot, BUT MAKE SURE YOU'RE LOW ENOUGH NOT TO DRILL THROUGH THE FUSE BOARD! Note flap in drawing, pulls the corner together and also fixed by same screw going through both layers of plastic. If you see what I mean. Anyway the contraption cover fusebox on all 3 sides.
The grommet is something I found in my spares, not marvellous but better than nowt. Has to be split to go around the cable loom, ditto the ice cream lid shield needs a split from inner edge to hole.
PS: this could conceivably be made of metal, say thin aluminium plate, but may be a problem getting it to fit if it doesn't bend easily.
Quote: markwilliams
Collected my new X10 350 today.
I noticed it is fitted with a hugger which looks as though it will stop this muck getting thrown up in the area of the fuses.
Is this a new addition or do all X10s have one?
Collected my new X10 350 today.
I noticed it is fitted with a hugger which looks as though it will stop this muck getting thrown up in the area of the fuses.
Is this a new addition or do all X10s have one?
Quote: spannerman
You should be fine with the 350 X10, my Beverly 350 also has the big hugger fitted, the 500cc is a different engine, so the frame has probably been modified for the old 500cc unit to fit in the X10 frame.
You should be fine with the 350 X10, my Beverly 350 also has the big hugger fitted, the 500cc is a different engine, so the frame has probably been modified for the old 500cc unit to fit in the X10 frame.
Mine has the hugger, and I think they always did, however underside of rear bodywork is still caked in dirt that has been thrown up in spray, and signs of same in the bottom of the fusebox, like I said earlier one of the relays has been removed and reconnected via a bunch of wires that go down the side of the fuseboard and splice into the main loom somewhere, such that it lies on its side on top of the fuses, so obviously the contacts for it became unreliable if not damaged due to corrosion. So no, still need this mod.
As an afterthought, I wonder whether the hugger can be extended at the back? That might help too.
PS: don't forget also my number plate lamp fix. Similar problem.
Dec 26th 2014
So, today I added a modified mudflap to my hugger as like an extender...
I trimmed it to make the guard 3 inches longer... the 'hugger' guard is about 8 inches (200mm) wide, so I needed a mudflap at least as wide as that, all I could get was a large size with an 'L' on it... Amazon.co.uk - Learner Mudflap LARGE 190mm x 275mm - by Bitzforbikes
Turned out slightly too wide so fouling on the springs, so I made 'C' cut-outs to clear ... mudflap is easily cut with scissors.
